I’ve removed that information from my site. is the hang angle measured while it’s loaded or before you get in the hammock? Thanks. (either upward or downward). The calculator is just for estimating, as I cannot predict all the forces at play, just those I can easily calculate for known values. The most accurate measurement is if there is some tension to take up the slack, but not fully loaded. If your hammock has spreader bars, that complicates things slightly since the spreader bars raise the hammock up. It was too difficult to keep working across the different versions of Android. Derek Hansen is a lightweight backpacker, former Scoutmaster, and “hammock enthusiast” who enjoyed his first hammock hang at age 14 at a Boy Scout high adventure base. What you are looking for in gear is “safe working load.” When hammocks are rated, for example, they take the breaking strength and then reduce that by a factor to get the safe working load. Sorry. This is also why folks recommend a safe working load limit by reducing the breaking strength by a factor of 5 or more to account for the unpredictable dynamic forces at play. Then your calculation is correct, but perhaps you could add the fact that the angle should be calculated with a loaded hammock: I was confused for a while. The only way you can add more overall force is if there is a ridgeline between the two hang points and this is pulled tight BEFORE adding the occupant weight. Hi – and wow……….all I want to do is sling a hammock in a shady spot ! Reason I ask, seen straps rated at only 200 lbs, so given the hammock is rated at $400 lbs, they seem to think it’s enough. You should ask around. The ridgeline is going to be shorter than your hammock. In such a space, the hardware to hang your hammock should ordinarily be mounted five to six feet (1.5 m to 1.8 m) off the ground. Thanks. Native apps are expensive, and Android especially so. It seems like hammock length doesn’t affect strap height on the calculator. MY HAMMOCK stand is 10′ across I don’t know what length to order hammock for a 250# limit. This is the length you use in the calculation. My mexican style hammock does not really have ridgeline length. I can enter info into the field boxes, but there is no calculate tab ??? Holidays are pulling me away. If you put the anchor point at the highest point you reference, you could then hang your hammock at a higher angle (45) using the loop extender, or at a lower angle (30) by clipping directly to the anchor bolts. Sorry, just after I wrote you, I realized that you are considering the angle alpha when the hammock is loaded, I was considering it when it’s empty (there’s quite a difference!) Hammock tips, illustrations, and reviews. The online version seems to calculate the ridgeline length and thus the suspension length is different Why not just make it a straight entry like the other fields? If you want to hang a tarp and camp, you’ll want the struts far enough apart to clear your tarp. Only experience so far is with ENO single nest and another cotton hammock using a hammock stand/frame. I’d have to ask a builder. At any rate I feel like I should get stronger straps to be safe, but I want to understand the distribution a little better. A hammock (from Spanish hamaca, borrowed from Taíno and Arawak hamaka) is a sling made of fabric, rope, or netting, suspended between two or more points, used for swinging, sleeping, or resting.It normally consists of one or more cloth panels, or a woven network of twine or thin rope stretched with ropes between two firm anchor points such as trees or posts. I’ll post an update when I hear back. I’m looking at doing just a web version. Hej, there is an error in the JS code of this calculator. In one room, I have three eye bolts drilled into one stud. force) = 100 units of force applied to _each_ side. I would hate for the hooks to fail and drop me 18 inches…plus I tend to wiggle/swing in my hammock. Authentic Mayan hammocks sold from Hammock Rada for example are amazing. But remember, this is HALF the distance between the trees, so you have to multiply by two. Thanks for your answer, Derek. Great thoughts. Dimensions below are specified for wall installation, however if your space is rather large you can use a ceiling or roof. It looks like you have a traditional Brazilian or Mayan hammock. We either have to buy a hammock stand, or go some place where there are two trees properly distanced from one another to hang the hammock. The Mayan hammocks and Brazilian hammocks generally require 11to13 feet minimum distance. This is fantastic, I never knew figuring out the science of hanging a hammock while camping was so easy. Or update the app, either way. Knowing that, I would not have paid for it. I have recently hung my Yukon hammock, which only has a 93″ ridgeline. Shorter and narrower hammocks benefit from shallower sags, or in other words, a tighter pitch (about 20° or so). The distance between the pergola posts is 8 feet, but can be adjusted to 9 feet wide. Its a good tool thanks. trying out my hennessy asym again only now I have purchased your app! h = Foot end anchor h higher than head end, L=(D-R∙cos⁡(atan⁡(h/D) ))/(2∙cos⁡α ) Is there an easy fix for this. Any further luck on this end ? 10-11′ distance between poles: will hang directly from hammock without use of straps. Swinging in the hammock will add more force. Preferred sit height Android issues are spotty and I can’t confirm with certainty which combination is having issues. The ridgeline is the cord that runs inside the bug net on the top where the pocket organizer lives. Dear Derek, your calculator is wrong: it’s missing a factor 2. I can adjust the sit height by lowering the hanging point. If you have a hammock stand that has a fixed height and length than you’ve already limited yourself on what hammock you can buy that will fit in that space. For example: all independent variables (those that can be selected) should be in RED: hopeing that you will make an android ver. I wish I had more control over the code, but I don’t. I’ve been trying to determine what is the lightest weight cordage that would be appropriate for the ridgeline. Android is no longer supported. If you are talking about having a fixed hang point already and are using the calculator to return the other variables, than I totally agree — this is a common feature request that I have forwarded to the developer. Ultimately there are many ways to skin a cat..the calculator is but only one! It’s the same load on both sides, per the calculation. The suspension is what attaches to the hammock and spans and distance to the anchor point. That helps a lot. Do you think this is possible? Thanks. They do not factor into the suspension length per se. The biggest challenge with stands is the height. ":"&")+"url="+encodeURIComponent(b)),f.setRequestHeader("Content-Type","application/x-www-form-urlencoded"),f.send(a))}}},s=function(){var b={},d=document.getElementsByTagName("IMG");if(0==d.length)return{};var a=d[0];if(! When I take it down, there is nothing in the way, and only two pipes and the hammock to store. This additional force would then need to be added to the suspension line forces, but only if the ridgeline is attached on the lines below the hang points. Are there plans for a Windows Phone version? If you wanted to stay out of the dirt, you would need to raise your straps. . I’d probably avoid it. I deleted the app again and contacted Goggle for a refund but would still like to have the app. However, I’m not completely sure about it. For example, if you know how long your hammock is and how far apart the anchors are (e.g., inside a room) you can punch in the numbers and get the height where to set the hooks (or tree straps, etc). How much space do I need to hang a hammock? Some hammocks don’t need suspension if they are long enough to reach the anchor point. I guess it isn’t two times the shear force, but rather just once. Problem as I see it is that without an even length of rope on either end then everything changes and the calculations totally did my head in !! Don’t get me wrong. How much space do I need to hang a hammock? Then, you will need to gather your hammock hanging hardware like a drill, screws, and a stud finder. Thank you so much! After the cotton hook latches to the bolt on the wall, the webbing begins immediately… how should I use the app in this case? “…provides a baseline only…” that may be okay for camping, but not when you want to install something on the walls indoors. Be sure to check with the manufacturer first on how they make that claim. Hanging a hammock is apparently not as simple as I thought. Height needs to be a variable on the calculation. As you move the two ropes apart, you’d notice that you weren’t just pulling upwards anymore to hold the hammock, but that you are also pulling horizontally. I noticed you stated it was being updated. Lay out the solar blankets with the shiny side facing up – One blanket should lie on top of the other, but not directly — they will overlap by a few feet. This give me an anchor point of 225cm high. I hope this helps. Thanks. You’ll find that you’ll need to lower the bridge hammock about 2 feet lower than a gathered end hammock would typically. […] building your hammock (straps, or whoopie slings, or whatever you use) you can check out this site: Hammock Hang Calculator – The Ultimate Hang To figure out who long your suspension needs to be… I started with how high I could possibly […]. R = Ridgeline length The hammock I really want is the large, but it is 13.4′ and I am just leery of it fitting in that space without the hang angle looking stupid. I presume that means they are 250Lb each. I was kind of expecting a number – or do you reply? The rest is a matter of equilibrium of forces and moments. Hi. It seems almost counterintuitive that more force is being applied than there is weight in a hammock, as if you magically gain weight. Or maybe I just need to go with what you said. I am working an a major update to the app. No fields have been left blank. I have tried to adjust the actual distance between anchors (3.2) until I have the desired suspension length at one end 50cm. Also forgot to ask, do you measure overall length and ridgeline length from the far end of each carabiner where it contacts your suspension lines? Hi Derek. 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I’ve bought the app and have a suggestion for the user interface – can you make the number boxes active so we can tap on them and change the number? α = Hang angle Hope that there is hope for this app, as I would really like to make use of it. The only force exerted is gravitation. If it is too tight, the forces are stronger. I was thinking on using a 2 x 4 long enough to reach two studs (between 16 in and 24 in) placing it horizontally. Since i will be hanging my hammock indoor, i won’t be using an actual ridgeline. This would lower seat height quite a bit. Neither the American Indians nor the Ancient Mayan Civilisation had calculators but slept suspended in peace! Trying to use the most reasonably short 2×4 for the car for travel, and the 30 hang angle and balance all the forces and still try to be reasonable height off the ground at the same time. I’m thinking of creating an indoor hammock stand for a very small space, and the main detail I’m having some trouble deciding is at what height the hang points should be. Ideally the hammock handles should be approximately 11ft 6in (3.5m) apart and 6ft (1.8m) high giving the hammock a nice loose curve. If there are two hang points, how can each one be carrying the full weight? Bruce, thanks for asking. For our Single and Double Hammocks that ridgeline length is around 9’ (108 inches) to get an ideal hammock curve. Yeah, those numbers aren’t adding up. Otherwise it is a great calculator and very helpful. The calculator is incorrect. For exact calculations, visit the website. How would i set this up if i was using a pipe stand from your site. I would use a set of the ENO wall anchors and then use a short cord loop where you could connect your hammock. I have 4 pine trees in a line and was curious if there will be enough room to hang the hammocks in between or if I need to use additional posts for them. My first hammock has been shipped yesterday and I’m excited to try it out. It will mean less hardware options, like the clinometer, but would mean less fiddling with the code. The only difference is that the force on the studs would be spread out, correct? (e in b)&&0=b[e].k&&a.height>=b[e].j)&&(b[e]={rw:a.width,rh:a.height,ow:a.naturalWidth,oh:a.naturalHeight})}return b},t="";h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.getBeaconData",function(){return t});h("pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run",function(b,d,a,c,e,f){var k=new p(b,d,a,e,f);n=k;c&&m(function(){window.setTimeout(function(){r(k)},0)})});})();pagespeed.CriticalImages.Run('/mod_pagespeed_beacon','https://theultimatehang.com/hammock-hang-calculator/','YddRYU7ik1',true,false,'1Ba6m_ZBQ8E'); I.e. Hammock straps are often given a safety factor of 4:1 or 5:1, so the weight you see is the working load limit. Ridgeline length 274.3 cm one questions. Check out this hammock hang calculator to figure out your perfect […], I use the calculator and have your book also. I can’t easily access the ceiling since there’s going to be a loft above it and I don’t trust the loft to carry the load (not the weight but the swing factor) so I’m planning on attaching it to studs at two points at an angle close to the corner of a wall. Am I reading that correctly? I keep seeing on hammockforums and in a Shug video that the ridgeline should be about 83% of the length of the hammock, but if I’m understanding how this is calculated it should be closer to 87%, right? It can get confusing because some strap manufacturers try to do the math for you and split the weight. I have been camping as a ground dweller with the family. I don’t think you have to add the force and its counterforce. Yes, use the hammock length and measure the full length (loop to loop, or clew to clew). I like David’s 1/3 down / 2/3 up suggestion for head/feet so will try that. The larger one fits fine at full height of the vertical bars and about 12ft apart. there is another 13″ of rope and hardware on each end) I just need some time. When you consider all the forces that are or could be at play, you’ll see that this isn’t such a simple calculation at all, although the calculator itself is only doing the most rudimentary calculation. What about when one anchor height is different from the other. I think it has the stock ridgeline, which I think is 101″. different suspension lengths at each end. I can’t make this thing work. I would appreciate any guidance! Then I thought of the possibility of using two eye bolts, placing one safety hook on each eye bolt and a chain hooked from each safety hook, to finally hang an extra safety hook in the middle of chain to finally hang the hammock. […] the ultimate hang har ogsÃ¥ en glimrende side med mye god informasjon og ikke minst den fiffige – hammock hang calculator. Wow….took a while to get through all the comments. [CDATA[ So x=2 y /tan(alpha). What is the shortest stand I could possibly get that would work comfortably with my hammock? Which calculator are you using? Think when I did this the suspension length came out wrong. App hang point 36 inches, […] your sit height. For a 13-foot hammock, you would want a distance of around 12 feet. Manufacturers are required to list the ratio they used on the gear. Regardless, I’m still hanging when I get a chance. I need to confirm that. It would be nice if I could attach the hammock directly to my anchor points, but I need to eventually get/assemble a suspension system for camping anyway, so that’s not really a big deal. Seems there have been some issue’s with the android app. When you decrease the degree of the hang, you increase the horizontal force. The calculation is more complicated than that. However, it often quits when I change values — e.g. How do these 2 possibilities affect the angle? I am new to hammocks so been playing with the app a lot, plus I am 70 and hope a hammock will help us get back to camping this year. Often, I find myself trying to hang a hammock off-center – closer to one tree than the other. But I camp in CA and may have only 1 tree and the car. Brazilian hammocks need generally 11 or 12 feet, the Mayans 11 -12 feet. Any idea of the length of hammock i can buy? Again, if the weight is 100: 50 (50% of occupant weight) + 50 (horz. This would also allow me to lower the straps a little. Using the right type of anchor bolts for the material is key. The wall also exerts force in the opposite direction in equal amounts. My developer is very busy right now so changes are not yet available. Now you want an angle alpha, this means that the derivative must be equal to tan(alpha), so x/L=tan(alpha)/2. Phil. I am a hammock rookie and ran across your calculator. The calculator will work but if there are too many fixed variables it can’t miraculously make the stand behave differently. Has it been added back? Hope I’m making sense… what does the hammock experts think? This calculator could come in […]. Is there a way to make a hammock fit in this space or a short hammock made for smaller spaces such as this? The Android app is no longer supported. Consult with a builder to determine what you have and what kind of lateral stress they can manage. I didnt ask you for your smart aleck input and do not appreciate it. I laid out the hammock on the ground to see where I needed the two pipes to be placed in order to hold the hammock at the right height and angle, knowing I could fine-tune the distance with a length of chain later. Before I even think about height or distance I’m concerned Trees, the traditional hammock hangers, must be spaced properly and large enough to support the hammock. You have been offered a refund. -Slbear. I suspect something else is wrong with your numbers. A relaxed, empty hammock will hang in a catenary curve that won’t be accurate. If it is really steep, you’ll get crazy numbers that probably aren’t realistic. A 20-28″ ground clearance seems suitable (pretty sure space constraints will force entering the hammock from the bed…) and I think anything between 30-45 degrees would be ok for the hang angle. I need to check to see if there are any bugs here. If you made this page into a PWA, a user on Android, iOS, or even PC would have an option in their browser’s menu to save the app. I use a Nexus4, rooted, KitKat 4.4, and it will not run whatsoever. Having huge issues with the calculator, bought this at the recommendation of a fellow hanger. How to Hang a Hammock on a Stand. The mobile app has more customization options. I would like to make calculations for a 35 or 40 degree hangangle. We had a hammock there for years and it recently broke. Start by drilling holes for the mounts or hooks that should’ve come with your hammock and screw them into the ceiling. Thanks in advance! I didn’t take any offense from Ken’s question. This centrifugal action applies more force than just the weight of the stone. Another user posted a similar question so l am going to look into it. If you have another app that includes a calibration tool (internal settings, perhaps? Thanks for your efforts! In theory, a hammock strung perfectly horizontal (0-degree hang), the horizontal force would be infinite. In other words, will it take the sitting height, add the distance between the hammock and ridgeline, then add the vertical distance due to the suspension (based on calculations of tree distance, ridgeline length, hang angle)? The problem that plagues me is that the Android platform shifts so much that even when we got a stable release within months several variants “broke” the code and it wasn’t a good experience. The Vario stand is unique. They have rope strings that have the loop. To make that happen, you’d want a distance of at least 12 feet to accommodate the tarp. I currently can’t hang my shorter hammock much tighter, because I think I would snap my ridgeline. It was an oversight. What would be the formula / calculation to determine the tension on a fixed ridgeline? Is the ridgeline the length from triangle point to triangle point? Hello, I entered all the appropriate info into the Calculator (span between poles–8.6 ft; hammock length 13 ft; sit height, etc.) Depending on how high the stand is, you will be able to fit a lot of simple gathered end hammocks like the ENO DoubleNest. Derek, great calculator. It would be just like they installed a simple app from the play store, but you wouldn’t have the maintenance nightmare of chasing new versions of iOS/Android. It directs to the old listing and gives a “not available in your country” message. There is another one out there but I would prefer to support the developer hence the reason for the purchase, just like the purchase of the book. I’m not sure if that really matters, but it works. It is specific hardware that has issues. ("naturalWidth"in a&&"naturalHeight"in a))return{};for(var c=0;a=d[c];++c){var e=a.getAttribute("pagespeed_url_hash");e&&(! Unfortunately, they wouldn’t quite work in the space I’ve got, and they’re out of my current price range. Thanks, Derek, for this site. For what it’s worth, I’m 5’2″, 113 lbs, am accustomed to sleeping more or less in the fetal position, & tend to like being “cocooned”. I bet someone in the community would be willing to help develop it for free. This hammock is usually about 5 feet long and is … You’re missing this last part. Most parachute nylon hammocks have weight limits of 300 to 450 pounds. Anything from six inches to a foot is about all that’s necessary. The Nicaraguan hammocks need 13 to 16 feet, depending on size. //]]>, […] not wanting to see each other gain. What is your hang angle? A double hammock has enough space for you to maneuver into the hammock angle, with some room to spare for your gear if camping. The app work great and I like it. Eye bolts work equally […]. Any fix will be appreciated. I hope this helps! I suppose you’re using the parabola equation (it would be more accurate with the catenary equation, but it doesn’t change by much). It seems like as you change hammock length, either the strap height or the seat height would have to change with it. Hammock length (isn’t “ridgeline” a dependent variable?) Since you can enter both a ridgeline and a hammock length, does the app account for the hammock sag when calculating Hang Point? Just bought a few 13′ hammocks for the kids to lounge on in the backyard. Ropes and webbing aren’t very good in transferring bending moments. 1 about the anchors being under lateral (torsional) stress and either pulling out or breaking. I also own the Vario an it has an adjustable base and arms so it can accommodate more hammock styles. If the ropes hung down at 90-degrees (straight down), the only force would be vertical. I assume it will stretch over time. I’m using Lash-it for the ridgeline, and that’s listed with a 500lb strength. I’m dealing with an older Mayan string hammock, which I love and have no concerns over a sudden failure there. I found that 70″ high got me closer to sitting height. We decided to update this fun DIY project that we completed a couple of summers ago by planting fresh flowers and hanging new lights. If so is that laying on the ground or hung, which varies? The plan is to hang my ENO Doublenest hammock across a bedroom corner (over my bed, which is 18″ tall including bedding). Rope should be attached to the hammock handles and the arc continued upto the fixing points. Hanging a hammock is easy and straightforward, but getting a better hang, suitable for sleeping, can require more tweaking. Hey, I downloaded the android version to my Samsung galaxy note8 and it keeps encountering an error. Some users restart or reload and it works. If you need to save some space it will be enough to remove the hammock from its hooks. I have updated the link. worked like a dream, i now have a hammock in my living room. They had a safety rating of 325 lbs and they’ve been working great! Stretch in the hammock also creates an issue. Or is that calculation the total between the two suspension lines? So, my only option is between two brick columns, which are 11′-6″ apart. My larger Hammock is a about 156″ in length and the shorter one is about 9.5-10ft in length (both cotton). 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